This election is like watching midgets fight. They are too weak to do real damage to one another, and most people find it to be cruel and unsporting to have to watch such a spectacle.
The debate will not win any votes, but it certainly could lose votes. People will become disgusted by both options and stay home on Nov. 5th.
Unfortunately for us, everything you say is 100% true. In the days leading to the debate, every single conservative pundit gave him points and advice. As if Trump would read it or listen to it LOL. Now came the reality check - were we living in a fantasy land hoping that he would magically turn into someone else? Trump is and always will be who he is. He will not change. And his mental state might have deteriorated with the stress from indictments and assassination attempt, which is understandable. I expected it would be bad, but deep down hoped it would not. After all, she was such an easy target with all the baggage of Biden’s policies and performance, her own progressive past, and inexplicable 180 degrees turns on major issues. He had to be totally unprepared or confused. GOP had good candidates. Was it a mistake to bet the future of our nation on this person? We shall see soon.
"Cillizza also said most undecided voters likely did not watch the entire debate and noted that despite the perception that former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton beat the former president in most of the 2016 debates, Trump won the election."
I didn't read that before making the above comment, but it is consistent with my gut reaction.
That might be true, but there’s no denying that Trump screwed the pooch in that debate. How much that will matter in the long run remains to be seen. My gut reaction is that Trump took a hit— but hey, maybe I’m wrong.
If the refs unfairly give the opposing team extra yardage and give your team unfair penalties, that’s one thing.
But if your quarterback keeps throwing interceptions and refuses to listen to the offensive coach, then your team has an even bigger problem than the zebras.
That’s what I saw happen at the Trump-Harris debate.
So here’s the thing. Clinton beat Trump in all 3 debates, easily. Every single poll showed she won by double digits. Yet Trump won the Electoral College vote. So what in this debate changes anyone’s view of Trump for Trump supporters? Nothing. So for Harris to win she has to assemble at least the same voters (or the equivalent) who voted for Biden in 2020. Can she do that? I have no idea, but she will probably lose a lot of old white men who voted for Biden because he was a white male from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Those voters are in the key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So where does she get the voters to make up for that? I guess young people who don’t vote as consistently? More women voters? Not sure, but if polls show the race is tied in the swing states I think that means Trump wins because his voters don’t always say who they are going to vote for and they will turn out. But my analysis is not of a political expert so I could be way off. As to myself, I’m still undecided. This is going to an election where I hold my mail in ballot that I will shortly receive and wait until the day of the election to fill in the Presidential vote and then drop the ballot at a polling station near me, which is allowed in Arizona. Why am I still undecided? It all comes down to my views on national security and who will have the necessary judgment and resolve in a crisis, which could be an attack on or blockade of Taiwan, an attack on a NATO country or something completely out of the blue. I don’t trust either candidate as Commander in Chief for different reasons, but I’m going to have to make a decision and I will when I have every bit of information. I admit that I have never been this uncertain about a Presidential vote and I have been voting for President since 1976.
This election is like watching midgets fight. They are too weak to do real damage to one another, and most people find it to be cruel and unsporting to have to watch such a spectacle.
The debate will not win any votes, but it certainly could lose votes. People will become disgusted by both options and stay home on Nov. 5th.
Unfortunately for us, everything you say is 100% true. In the days leading to the debate, every single conservative pundit gave him points and advice. As if Trump would read it or listen to it LOL. Now came the reality check - were we living in a fantasy land hoping that he would magically turn into someone else? Trump is and always will be who he is. He will not change. And his mental state might have deteriorated with the stress from indictments and assassination attempt, which is understandable. I expected it would be bad, but deep down hoped it would not. After all, she was such an easy target with all the baggage of Biden’s policies and performance, her own progressive past, and inexplicable 180 degrees turns on major issues. He had to be totally unprepared or confused. GOP had good candidates. Was it a mistake to bet the future of our nation on this person? We shall see soon.
Respectfully, you guys are at a disadvantage because you watched the debate.
"Cillizza also said most undecided voters likely did not watch the entire debate and noted that despite the perception that former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton beat the former president in most of the 2016 debates, Trump won the election."
I didn't read that before making the above comment, but it is consistent with my gut reaction.
https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/12/it-wasnt-a-knockout-ex-cnn-analyst-rains-on-dems-post-debate-parade/
That might be true, but there’s no denying that Trump screwed the pooch in that debate. How much that will matter in the long run remains to be seen. My gut reaction is that Trump took a hit— but hey, maybe I’m wrong.
Allow me a football analogy.
If the refs unfairly give the opposing team extra yardage and give your team unfair penalties, that’s one thing.
But if your quarterback keeps throwing interceptions and refuses to listen to the offensive coach, then your team has an even bigger problem than the zebras.
That’s what I saw happen at the Trump-Harris debate.
Lesson for all of us.
Kamela went into the debate with many disadvantages (the failures of the Biden administration, a tendency to cackle, etc).
But with a lot of hard work (and help from the moderators), she overcome those disadvantages.
Trump was lazy and unprepared.
So here’s the thing. Clinton beat Trump in all 3 debates, easily. Every single poll showed she won by double digits. Yet Trump won the Electoral College vote. So what in this debate changes anyone’s view of Trump for Trump supporters? Nothing. So for Harris to win she has to assemble at least the same voters (or the equivalent) who voted for Biden in 2020. Can she do that? I have no idea, but she will probably lose a lot of old white men who voted for Biden because he was a white male from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Those voters are in the key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So where does she get the voters to make up for that? I guess young people who don’t vote as consistently? More women voters? Not sure, but if polls show the race is tied in the swing states I think that means Trump wins because his voters don’t always say who they are going to vote for and they will turn out. But my analysis is not of a political expert so I could be way off. As to myself, I’m still undecided. This is going to an election where I hold my mail in ballot that I will shortly receive and wait until the day of the election to fill in the Presidential vote and then drop the ballot at a polling station near me, which is allowed in Arizona. Why am I still undecided? It all comes down to my views on national security and who will have the necessary judgment and resolve in a crisis, which could be an attack on or blockade of Taiwan, an attack on a NATO country or something completely out of the blue. I don’t trust either candidate as Commander in Chief for different reasons, but I’m going to have to make a decision and I will when I have every bit of information. I admit that I have never been this uncertain about a Presidential vote and I have been voting for President since 1976.