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Why are you opposed to having a small number of anti-Zionists in Congress, their small numbers roughly commensurate with the percentage of anti-Zionists in US population? It’s not as if they are going to be passing legislation forcing Israel to stop building settlements or going after Hamas in Rafah. Anti-Zionism — the idea that Jewish state should be replaced by a single state for Arabs and Jews — is an unrealistic idea that’s not good for the Jews and not gonna happen anytime soon, but it’s not “genocidal” or “antisemitic,” that is unless you’re calling for the Jews to pack up and leave instead of staying in the new state.

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Well, let me think… Aha! It’s because “anti-Zionists” are in fact disgusting and vile antisemites, which is to say racist scum. Does that clear it up for you?

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Back that up with an argument and convince me it’s true. Until you do that. you’re no different or smarter than low IQ antisemites like Mr Raven.

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Of course it’s true. “Anti-Zionism” means that one rejects the legitimacy of the Jewish state, which means one believes that the Jews, alone among the peoples of the earth, have no right to a national state of their own. It will be noticed that “anti-Zionistists” i.e voice no objection to such states as the Arab Republic of Egypt or the Islamic Republic of Iran. That is what is know in common parlance as glaring double standard. And it constitutes clear evidence of antisemitism. So you see, I am smarter than Herr Raven—not to mention smarter than you.

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Damn I feel sorry for you having to defend such a weak argument. In first place, there are hundreds of peoples, some of them larger populations than Jews and similarly oppressed, not “allowed” to have states. Kurds, Druze, Yezidis, Baloch, Assyrians, Punjabis, Sikhs, Gypsies, Ugyers…I could go on and on. Second, the states that you mention like Egypt and Syria are undemocratic but they give citizenship to everyone living inside their borders. The rule is that a state is generally recognized by international community if the people wishing to establish one manage to conquer it or are granted territory, hold onto it, and GRANT CITIZENSHIP (AND VOTING RIGHTS, IF THEY EXIST) to ALL people living in it. If you do these things, your state is legit, if you don’t, it’s illegitimate. Great states like Rhodesia were turned into third world shitholes but they had no alternative because refusing to grant citizenship to a majority or large minority in a country is verboten today. Israel has checked these legitimacy boxes with respect to territory within the green line, which is why most of the world is willing to be “Zionist” to an Israel with pre-1967 borders. The Arab/Muslim/woke left will of course dissent, and their rallying cry will be that the 1948 refugees who one year earlier lived in the Israeli half of the partition agreement should be allowed to return. They have a point but the fact is that most of the world will ignore them and grant Israel legitimacy once Israel either renounces its right to control West Bank and Gaza OR alternatively, decides to hold onto these territories while granting Arabs in those territories the same rights that Israeli Arabs have today. As long as Israel refuses to do this, lots of people will be anti-Zionist in the sense that they support a Jewish state but not a state in which a minority of Jews rule over a majority of Arabs.

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Yes, you could go on. But are all those people being denied independent statehood by leftist university students in Western countries? Why no, they’re not! But they Jews are being so denied, aren’t they? On what basis, may I ask? Why, for instance is the faction of Harvard so Opposed to the Jewish state? The answer is obvious: antisemitism.

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The kids at Columbia hate the Israelis because they look white and act powerful. And they really hate Israelis because unlike most other whites these days, they seem to have zero guilt give zero fucks and be strongly committed to their self-preservation. And they seem to have an “extra” dose of privilege, which they rightfully attribute to their Jewishness, in that putting down white people is not just allowed but encouraged in the USA, while putting down Jews can and will get your ass fired or your tent city demolished. So yeah woke left hates Israelis and their supporters because they’re unapologetically white.

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You should listen to MTG on Tim pools irl show. I thought she was crazy but she actually was okay chatting with him. Opened Tim’s eyes to a lot about what goes on in Congress.

Also she jokingly played the card game MTG 😂.

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To paraphrase wokes, silence is violence. It's not enough to not be terrorists. We need Democrats to be anti-terrorists.

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She’s such a terrorist bitch

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Recuerde Don Roberto! … “#Trump will never leave!” ~ Bob D’Nero … “It’s up to you, #New-York … New York!” ~ Frank Sinatra, circa 1980

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People are sick of Jew shit and are rising up, soon, the stupid left v.s. right fight created by the Jew will evaporate and everyone will realize who their true enemy is.

You scared Jew?

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They’re not scared Raven. They laugh at you. Why can’t antisemites calm the fuck down and make stronger arguments. Like Keith Woods does, for example.

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Doesn't play as well with Middle America: recent polls show Biden ahead by 8 points in NY and 7 points in NJ, states that he won by 23 and 15 points iib 2020.

Harvard-Harris polls report a big increase in disapproval among independent voters over Biden's move to the left on Israel.

You'd think that a Dept of Justice that treats complaining parents at school board meetings as domestic terrorists would be all over a Congresswoman aiding and abetting the PFLP, a designated terrorist organization.

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I'm from the Midwest and I say Talib is wrong about many things, but she is correct the genocidal "state" of Israel is a parasite on the hard earned tax dollars being spent by the empire to support it.

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Correction: Mr. Raven is a Nazi from the Midwest. His vile jew-hate and Hitler nostalgia is all over substack. He doesn't even do the "zionist " dodge. Just straight up JJJOOOOSSS.

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Thanks for providing the Oberlin graduate uber-hippie perspective.

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Oh, bullshit.

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The Republicans did the right thing in expelling Santos.

The Dems haven't quit laughing.

Neither party is good, but there is still a difference.

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