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R Hodsdon's avatar

Okay, call me a Marxist if you like (hint: I ain't) but I don't see early 20th century Progressivism as an insidious sort of social dry rot which has weakened the old oaken timbers of American constitutional polity. The politics of today's Progressives in the Democratic Party are not of the same nature as that earlier Progressive era populism. That earlier brand of "Progress" was a more a political course-correction to achieve economic rights for the common man. I see the new terms as signifying a more recent, post-Cold War view of American society that attempts to focus on the rights of people living on the margins of society -- not necessarily economic ones, but social and cultural margins.

I consider it to have been a series of populist legislative reforms which were necessitated by the fabulously successful growth of the still-developing American economy, which greatly enriched the holders of capital -- the "Captains of Business", or if you prefer, the "Robber Barons" -- but which largely excluded the vast majority of Americans from the economic fruits of development. From this, quite naturally, there grew a resentment not only of the wealth of the upper classes, but a desire to weaken their hold on the levers of political power. I view this as reformism, a stage of capitalism that was necessary, inevitable and generally beneficial to the nation as a whole...even to the economic and political elites, as eventually (in the 1930's) progressive political changes (a.k.a. The New Deal) undoubtedly forestalled more serious social unrest. At the end of the era, the Rich were still a lot wealthier than the great majority of American, but workers enjoyed better living conditions in considerable part because of wage gains achieved through union action.

By about 1920 the America of the Founders had changed we had grown from a predominantly rural to a majority urban population. We were a racially, ethnically, culturally diverse nation -- not in the same fashion as an empire, but a nation, albeit one with a European Christian majority controlling most local, state and federal legislatures. Change was going to occur, whether the political class in power liked it or not. FDR, a product of the moneyed American 'aristocracy', had the political ins right to realize this change could take place with through a revolutionary overthrow of the status quo or through making reforms. Both Roosevelts were reformers, but it was FDR who had the guts, wily political instincts and will to push through necessary reforms without causing a 'counter-revolution' by obstructionist Republicans. And of course, as you pointed out, the War made a huge difference, as controls on production, consumption and nearly everything else were accepted as necessary measures to aid the war effort.

A couple of other points in passing. I recognize that this is your blog, and you can write on whatever subject in whatever way suits you, but maybe a bit ]less banging on the "wokeism" thing and gender issues in general would make your arguments more effective in rewatching a general audience=, which would include a lot of self-identified "Liberals" such as me. Secondly, when referring to my fellow liberal Democrats, I question whether it is fitting to refer to us as "the Comrades" as you have from time to time. In a few instances, of course, it can be considered wry wit, but becomes tendentious with repetition.

I didn't intend to try and write an essay on the subject, Thomas, and I am sorry if my 'comment' sound like pointless argumentation -- since I am not trying to change your opinions, merely respond to them -- but since you have shared your opinions in a frank manner, I hope you will consider it a compliment that I do the same.

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The Angry Demagogue's avatar

Excellent - but you forgot one other thing that is part and parcel of the progressive movement in general and Woodrow Wilson in particular - racism.

1. Wilson is the one who re-segregated Washington DC and fired most of the black civil servants in federal bureaucracy.

2. When Wilson sought to build public housing in order to house the masses of factory workers going to places like Chicago, he conditioned federal aide to only segregated housing.

3. And who can forget the original reason that Planned Parenthood and abortion gained popularity? To limit the number of black babies being born.

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